bagginsbill, thanks so much for the shadow info. I'm cramming as much as possible into this wee brain as fast as possible.

Note: I just discovered Matmatic and the list of resources posted here. It's in the second sticky on first page of Poser Forum. Now I just need time to wade through it all.

Also, is your AMUCFS available? Is it commercial? I have Apollo and would love to see your shader system for him.

My problem with the lips is Me. I'm having trouble getting the blur right on the mask. Yep, I discovered that you don't have to make separate textures at all for the lips if you want to add makeup. Makes a texture package a lot lighter. And there "glow" works just fine.

I'm also having trouble with Sydney's lip texture mapping. Maybe this happens with all characters that have a separate map for lips but I don't remember having the problem before. I make a morph and enlarge the lips and the head texture is fine but the lip map doesn't cover the entire lip. I'll post a pic as soon as I reboot. Poser went kookoo on me.

Also I'm not very far along with textures for these characters yet. Just getting started there.