RE to addendum regarding library boxes: Poser standard library items come on a grey background with the darker circle on it. Sometimes I have noticed that when saving to the library, the boxes are "raised" and are smaller (it just looks kind of inconsistent with some raised, some not raised). When editing the thumbnail in Seno's 3dO explorer program, it saves them as full 91x91 pictures. it appears that when saving to the library, poser normally saves the figure and deletes whatever background that the figure has (this allows for a non-raised background) it appears that there is no way around editing a picture and copying it to Seno's Explorer without having it appear "flat". Poser defaults save library thumb characters as figures with shadows behind them (which is what i am ultimately trying to achieve)