Hi BagginsBill,

Thanks for replying back. I will try that out. At least 30 samples wow. I don't think my machine or my patience will like that . I rarely render at full settings( takes too fricken long) and I think they need to be at the highest settings to get that many samples although I could be wrong on that. Artifacts Im not to concerned about . I can always postwork it if it's not too bad. I really just want a fairly rough effect of this that I can clean up later in an image editor. Looking forward to the tutorial. Whenever you can get around to it is fine. Yes that was me posting about it on CP. Im BJ there.

Thanks for the link Anton. I was aware of that thread before but had forgotten about it. Thanks
for reminding me it's on my to do list as are many other things. Probably too many lol.

Thankyou too replicand.

Cheers,
JB or BJ