A lot of people are misreading my intent here.

I am that kind of guy that gets into a comfortable routine and sticks with it.

That is why i said that some of the poser rooms do not work for me because of the way they are implemented.

because of the dial system it makes it real hard to get what you want because it is a hit and miss approach all the time unless you spend countless hourss within those rooms and experiment you won't get much. I have tried to make some hair and i really prefer to use hair done by artists here. That is why i am saying that i do not need this rooma and that it should be gone.

Someone told " well if you are not using it that does not mean that others are not using it"

...well then, how many other users have tried it and gave up?

No i do not want to use 3ds max or maya...i do not want to mortgage a house to use those programs...i do not need them really.

BUT i see tons of plugins that were done for those high end programs that would be time saving to people.

I remember seeing a cloth plugin with 3ds max that work wonders and was so simple to use that it makes me cry to not see this in poser..do not tell me that poser people would not benefit form a good cloth program for clothes within the program...

If the programming to do these kind of things would be to hard to do in the present poser state, that is why i am stating that the basecode of poser should be redone to incorporate plugins form other 3d apps. You could buy what you need after buying the base program.

Illustrate is an example of an awesome plugin for max that really lets you toon your renders instead of the horrible bypass that is in poser right now...if you look at the carrara toon engine it is the same..so that was not really innovative from the poser people.

A major reason why poser is not in the big leagues per say is for the reasons i mentionned above.

It is a super easy program to use but it lacks all the good tools that would make poser people life way easy...that is why most people in 3d business do not care about it. If that was to change then maybe people would reconsider their opinion about poser.

I love poser do not get me wrong..but personnally i do not think that the app has evolved enough in its last few iterations. There is no big time feature that would make me go WOW...

For gods sake  there is not even no batch rendering (far as i know) a feature that has been in sister program Carrara for a long time...

Even the upcoming version Poser Pro promotes new features while looking at them they are just attempts to make poser work with other apps.

The functionality needs to be in Poser! Not outside thru some other plugins that opens up another app..if the owner want to write plugins they should write it to be in poser itself.

A lot fo people will disagree with what i just wrote...but that is the way i see it at this time, i do hope it gets better..