aha ... I've had an account there for a long time but haven't been there for longer than that :)

Quote - Dr. Legume is moderator at Renderotica (I suppose he's the same ol' Doc)

Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it.
Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together.
All things connect......Chief Seattle, 1854