Fran said, *And I really like both your methane cathrate and your ice cubes.  Are you entering that in the challenge this month?  That methane would be an excellent candidate.

Naw, (I have already entered a cheesy one) I was attempting a second scene to enter and it was the Methane flame.  I was satisfied with the flame I cooked up. But it seemed to simple as a stand alone render. 

I am happy now.  No more funk.   Now the BIG idea I would have liked to do was an winter urban fire scene, complete with fire engines, hoses, burned out and smoldering tenant building, with huge ice sickles and ice encased stuff from all the water freezing on power lines, poles, awnings, etc...    But I best leave that to a master like Rochr or you.