the essentials have not changed **in that particular context.

**And? You're complicating something pretty straightforward, like a geek usually would.

Subsurface division a la the new dragon isnt changing the essentials, Tom, just like a wheel hasnt changed in, oh, several thousand years or a lever is still the basic of mechanics.

Build on the essentials all you want. No one's stopping you. Put in all the bells and whistles your little geek head wishes... but you're still gonna be hard-pressed to change the basic mathematics at work here. I dont care what program you ramp up to: a polygon is a polygon is a polygon. An obj is still an obj is still an obj.

>> Over in DAZ-land, this is already happening - folks can start out w/ D|S, and when they want something higher-up, they can move to Carrara, then Carrara Pro. Then they can start getting tools that can export to FBX, and push the results of that into 3DS/LW/Maya-land. Meanwhile, Poser is... err, Poser.

Exactly. So why are you so clearly wasting your time here when you could -- and probably should -- be there?** For that matter, go join the gear-heads at CGTalk and wail at anyone who'l listen there about how awful Poser is, how limiting, how so low on the scoreboard when it comes to real CG work. Frankly, Scarlett, I dont give a damn, because while you're moaning about how terrible it is that I can actually use all this stuff that dates back a decade, I'll be having fun... I'll be building my little illustrations and posting them on my website and enjoying every damn second of it while I do... and that's all that matters, pumpkin. If I want to move on to higher-end proggies, I can do that anytime I clock in at work. Hell, I can do it at home with my own copy of Carrara and my own copy of Maya, now that you mention it. If I want to play, I'll open Poser. Deal with it.

Unless, of course, you just like to whine about something you know you cant change. You know, like T&A in the galleries, as you're always so quick to feel you need to remind me. :)

But hey, whatever rocks your boat, bud.

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