going backwards...

pardon, but so what if Renderotica's rules are more stringent?  i mean, that's like the little kid saying it's fine to do something because his friends did.  not that i'm taking sides between the two of you, it's just that it has absolutely nothing to do with any of JoePublic's points.  his point was: hey, there's a site with different rules and it works, both commercially and artistically.  i have no clue what site he's talking about, but bringing a third site into the mix is entirely irrelevant and has no bearing on anything he said.  i think there's definitely an argument against what he's saying, i just don't see how anything you wrote did so.

as for the lecturing, see the long bit about classical art and culture and telling us to go educate ourselves, all of which assumes we're working from a delusional vision of  a pure past.  i know i wasn't.

"And, yes -- it's best to follow the mores than its best to follow."  um, that, simply doesn't make sense grammatically.  i'm not sure what you're trying to say.  should "than" be "that?"  

i wasn't talking about just art in general either, i was talking about art here, too.  hence, " myriad negative effects in this community."  as for "cat's eye boulders," i think we should both pass on that.  to be honest, i don't think either of us see any validity or weight in the proof or facts we provide each other, no matter what the topic.  besides, i'm not feeling well, and i'll be going home soon and probably sleeping.  

sorry, that sounds snippy.  i really do think we should just say we disagree and leave it at that.  good luck on your project.