Just for the sake of saying it, and so it's "on the record", I actually love Terragen. I used to use it constantly, but then I went and saw the Bryce 4 demo, and the next thing I knew I was ordering it, which was at the same time I first tried the Vue d'Esprit demo and also ordered that. So it's also at that point that I stopped using Terragen, but recently I've re-installed Terragen and begun playing with it and it is kind of fun, and there is a pretty good amount of flexibility in the types of skies it can create, as well as terrains. I just didn't want to sound like I was Terragen-bashing or anything like that. But it is in no way a full 3D package, and definitely seems to be limited to only landscapes. I'm sure that someone who's really good with Terragen could easily make a better, more realistic landscape than someone who's just starting out with Bryce, but I seriously doubt a Bryce Master such as , say, gevidal would have anything to worry about in a landscape contest against Terragen. But, again, for the record, I do love Terragen still.