Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL


Subject: Sexual identity for figures

jhmcd2 opened this issue on Apr 10, 2008 · 306 posts


thinkinc posted Mon, 14 April 2008 at 12:31 AM

... Wow.

Talk about a post that never asked for what it got.  There are a whole lot of dead bodies in this conversation... Hitler and Caravaggio in the same pile!  Weird.

Erotic imagery is only for those people who are enlightened enough to handle it, and the enlightened people are always the ones who occupy the upper tiers of society.  Only the educated and privileged classes can be trusted to hold the keys to the doorway of the animal mind, and mere plebes must be prohibited from exposure... for their own good!... otherwise they'd all be raping rabbits in the streets, drinking blood and dancing around in the moonlight rather than working, consuming, paying taxes, watching television and going to church. This attitude is not new; in fact, it's one of the hallmarks of Western civilization.  It's stupid, of course, but it isn't going to go away because Poser got invented.  Anyone who makes art that speaks too much to the animal mind (not that the original poster was going to) runs the risk of needing to be thoughtfully corrected by those who know better.

anyway, just a word of caution to poser users: don't even think about comparing yourselves
to the great masters of the italian renaissance (in regard to cherubs, amor, cupid et al.).
it's just another of the several self-delusions peculiar to the poser subculture that have made
poser the laughing stock of the larger 3D community (users of more expensive apps).

I am one of those expensive apps users (3DS/Maya), and I get what you're saying here, and yes, there is some criticism of Poser, but... I don't laugh.  Poser is a perfectly legitimate art tool that saves me loads of time when I don't want to reinvent the wheel (body).  What I laugh at is the piles and piles of gravity-proof boobies that come out daily as guys discover that they can make their own porn.  However, I also realize that the demand for porn pushes new mediums, always has, always will, and that keeps said mediums affordable and available.  That means more artists have access to these tools.  I've seen some  art come straight from the Poser rendering engine that was so good that it makes me feel embarrassed for owning ubersoftware.

Some of the folks who argue against Poser say that it's the Fisher Price of 3D work, but not every work of digital art is about modeling.  If you're trying to make art, then the important thing is the art, not whether you used the most expensive tools.  Great art can be made with tempera paints and pencils and it is hanging in galleries every day for sale for thousands of dollars.  I wouldn't want it thought that because I use the big apps, I have no regard for Poser, when it is a perfectly legitimate tool that allows young artists to get a start in the 3D art world.  If everyone had to start with 3DS to be taken seriously, the pool of real artists would be limited to the privileged and the pirates... and, it's worth pointing out that this is something that many 3D artists would like (without the pirates, of course), because competition is threatening.

Anyway, that was off topic, sorry, but at least it wasn't Hitler.