No one has commented on how wonderful metaballs will be..so decided I have too:D I've been serious thinking about switching to Vue, and ditching the Bryce bandwagon, because with Corel I thought it would be a sinking ship. But it appears to be greatly improved. A tree generator...looks great...not sure about the loose leaf placement I saw..but we shall see. I'm looking forward to being able to model with metaballs, thats been one of my complaints the lack of modeling capabilites, with metaballs I can think of so many ways of creating a face and animating it, lava flows looking all flowy..lol There quick solution to the rendering speed problems...rendering over a network is a nice idea, but hope they will eventually improve the rendering engine. The new lighting looks nice, I like the gradient ability. Well we shall see if its all that it is cracked up to be.