jhmcd2 opened this issue on Apr 10, 2008 ยท 306 posts
Penguinisto posted Thu, 17 April 2008 at 9:29 AM
Quote - Quote - "There is no good censorship."
...until someone commits slander or libel against you.
Apple and Oranges. Grasping for straw (men), are we ?
sigh. Here, let me hold your hand for a bit:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_in_the_United_States
"Certain forms of speech, such as obscenity and defamation, are restricted in major media outlets by the government or by the industry on its own."
Now go look up defamation (it's linked as well) - guess what libel and slander are forms of?
Please, for your own sake, learn at least something about the subject you're pontificating on, then go look up what a strawman argument really is before claiming it. Thx in advance.
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I never had a problem pissing my fellow men off when I thought they were idiots.
I'm guessing you don't do that to anyone capable of stomping you into the mud, but only to those you think are physically weaker than you. Oh, wait - is this the part where you get to claim that you're ten feet tall, bulletproof, and can out-fight a horde of Shaolin Monks? Okay, you go right ahead and do it now. ;)
Quote - As I said, apple and oranges. Libel is when you knowingly spread lies about another person.
...and it is actionable under US law, hence a form of censorship. What part of this fails to sink in for you?
Quote - If it's the truth, it's called journalism. Or gossip.
Truth is not libel - in fact it is a perfect defense against libel under US law (though not always UK law). No one has said otherwise.
Quote - Shrugs. That's what proxies are there for.
Which get you approximately nowhere once the right controls are in place. Between RBL's and a requirement for using a non freemail address to sign up? You can be banned outright, and no proxy (not even TOR) will let you post when you're not wanted. Open Proxies are not the magic bullet they once were.
Quote - I'm not here to socialize or build a reputation.
I'm here because I care about Poser as a concept.
It would help if you actually knew what you were talking about sometimes. ;)
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