I'll have to give the flare intensity and span settings a try-out. I've never really messed with that stuff much either... Vue 4's gonna be real cool, I bet. :) Anyway, this thing underwent some changes today. I just sloshed some colors around in Painter and then applied a "stained glass" filter to it and used that as a texture for the glass, at about 20% transparency with no highlights. That's definitely the "bulbs" showing through. The texture could have been better and it's not a seamless tile because I don't really know how to do that, although I was reading about it in the Painter 6 manual and am planning on figuring it out soon. I can't decide if tyhe new glass texture "clashes" with the rest of the fixture or not! Does it?