I agree with Peggy here, imo the stock Vue trees are ment for background rendering (thus not so extreem close-up in a camera view) However i do find some of them good enough for a 'closer' render, but than again this all depends a bit on the total view of the scene i guess. And if you use these for eco 's, your 'puter usually stays happy with it :-)

 

Society failed to tolerate me...

... and i have failed to tolerate society