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Actually , the only ones that work have all the VNs and Faces in them. I took your advice , opened them in word and copy/pasted the VN and F info from one that worked. Now they open. If they have the same number of vertices as the original , then it should work but if i play with them in Cinema4D they go wild again. Still figuring out this thing :( thanks lieutenant