Agree, I've read a lot of good things about the latest poser. Hoping to purchase a copy soon when I get the cash (I dunno when), but will be a boxed version, not download. All my posers were done in WinXP, and encountered memory problems, computer bogging down, even a blue screen then reboot in WinXP when trying to render. I really hoped they fixed memory issues in the latest. I got fed up and challanged D|S. Yes it was like learning a whole new lanquage and still am educating myself. I do get fustrated on constant updates of D|S (New version), that even now my Bryce 6.1 doesn't recognize the latest version of D|S. Still waiting for that fix. 3Dlight really expanded my use of D|S along with Mood master. I was really amazed of the lighting and renders I was getting.  I do have the [ UberEnvironment Light Shader IBL HDRI](http://www.daz3d.com/i.x/shop/itemdetails/-/?item=6337&cat=370&_m=d) for D|S, and I am amazed at the renders I am getting from them to.  I suffer in Poser, although I still use Poser(6). Trying to see if I can get the best out of it, and keep up the skills. Both D|S and Poser have their pros and cons. Maybe the latest poser will be awesome here (hopefully), now that it is on the third hand of another company. Dunno how many companies Poser been through, but the best always stays with one company like 3DS max that I wish for. I seen wonders with that programs. But, me the little unfortunate guy is forbidden from owning a purchased copy until I have a good few thousand bucks on me.

This image done using UberEnvironment IBL.