Hi

To pushinfaders:
I'll not respond further to the "untruthful" remark. I merely stated that you were incorrect in your calculation. If it is not my right as a member to challenge inaccuracies please say so. You could have responded quite simply to my query by stating:

"Having received a query about the result of the April 08 Genre challenge from a forum member. The result has been reviewed and the result was a tie between Deviney and Dibs on 31pts each. However, the image submitted by Deviney received five 1st place votes and the entry by Dids received only four, therefore the  result will remain as previously stated."

As previously stated in an earlier thread I am a relative newbie to the photography forum. Unlike yourself, I don't have the advantage of historical knowledge of the previous discussions or practices of the forum. The forum is an organic system which changes e.g. forum members will come and go and therefore the "mindset" will change within the forum. The forum cannot remain rigid and fixed in its views of what the forum members want or require. The forum administrators will receive queries, challenges, suggestions and recommendations to change the practices and policies of the forum and I believe these should be noted and periodically presented for approval at a set time of the year, like an AGM. If this practice already occurs please advise me and I'll take note.

To TomDart:
My concern is not with regard to the production of postworked images but in the transparency of the postworked techniques used so that those who are less knowledgable may be better informed when it comes to voting for an image. For example, if my wife who is also a member of the forum, were to vote on a challenge she would do it based on the final appearance of the presented images. She has no or little knowledge of postwork techniques and would thus be making an uninformed decision based solely on the appearance of the image.
 
To All:
As a newbie to the forum, maybe somone would like to explain the rationale behind the "keep postwork to a minimum" statement. I still don't see why you can't have transparency about the postwork involved in producing an image.

The impression I get from the statement is to maintain the purity and integrity of the original image, maybe I'm wrong. As awjay stated, "I consider myself an image maker not singularly a photographer". He obviously distinguishes his work as either a photographic image or an artistic image by the amount or type of postwork involved, as do I.

Is the purpose of the challenge within the Photography Forum to post a photographic or an artistic image? The impression I get from some of the thread replies is that "anything goes" because they personally have the ability to discern overlypostworked images and don't require such information to make that judgement but they don't deem it necessary or desirable for others who may be less informed than themselves to have that information, see example presented above.