Ghonma - maybe we're just coming from two different places of expectation - I see Kupa is back in the Poser spin saddle, so I have to admit, I am somewhat immune as to what gets passed off as new! fantastic! features! - Poser Pro 4 actually had features - at best, these are enhancements and optimisations, and I treat them as such. So in that respect - Yes, Gamma Correction is a whole new paradigm of understatement, but if it does help make renders look less shitty - fine. As for being thrown the same old stuff - Poser is in it's 13th year now, and way beyond the mannequin replacement app it was intended as. During those 13 years, Poser has had Fractal Design, MetaCreations, egi.sys (Curious Labs), E-frontier, and now Smith Micro as owners. And still the codebase has the same old bugs, and some of the same issues it started out with. I don't think it's likely they're going to rebuild the app from scratch - I think we're going to see the same stuff as always being thrown at the user-base, lots of big words actually giving very little. I think this was an enhancement release - and that SM are trying to figure out who/where their marketbase is with it. As for quadrupeds - the Mill-horse looks really bad, as do a lot of critters with Poser Collada. D|S handles it a bit more gracefully - also take a look at what you can with props and stuff - it's .. fascinating ;-) ~s