Haha i see what you mean about that horse. Ah well, at least D|S is still around.

As for expectation, i guess you're right. I'm not a very old and seasoned Poser user, i only came to it a few years back when i needed a lot of characters for a project and didn't have time to model them myself. Liked the quick results and decent quality i got with Poser and stuck around. So my take on it is more like that of a 'pro' who also happens to be a poser fan, which i suppose is opposite of most other people here.

In any case, i would just like to say that i actually like poser pro. It's generally been stable and fast for me and i can make good use of the COLLADA support as well as the 64 bits. For me, the time i save with those 2 features alone is enough to justify the cost, which i will make back in 2-3 projects. But what about all those people who are basically buying it as Poser 7.5 or Poser 8 ? IMO they are not getting enough value for their money and should be taking SM to task for this, that's all.