I must be a total idiot :blushing: , bagginbill, but I can't seem to get the shadow catcher material to work. I know I'm probably just not doing something, very simple and logical, right. I've tried it with the ground plane, a cloth plane and an imported background and when I manage to actually get something, it's just a black area across the bottom. I've followed the steps you outlined in the other thread about creating shadows, which seem quite simple, and still no go :sad: . What could I be missing or doing wrong :unsure: ? Do I need to add a special light or something to cast the shadow? In your pictures, in the other thread showing each step to do, there is a sphere. Is that something I need to use or is it just for an example? I've only had Poser 7 for a few months so some things I still find confusing, even if they end up being very simple once I've figured it out. If you have any ideas as to what I might be doing wrong I would really appreciate your help. Thank you and I'm sorry if I'm being bothersome in any way.