Quote - Let's see there is Poser,
Daz Studio,
Carrara,
InterPoser for C4D,
Bryce Import via D/S,
Green Briar Studios Lightwave Plugin,
Did I miss one or two?

All this for Poser content. I wasn't asking what renders better or produces better because it's more complicated or sophisticated and COSTS a lot more by the way. I know there are programs that produce better graphics I've seen some of their renders advertising Poser content before. I asked, what does what Poser does with the same degree of simplicity just to hear what I might have missed. I thought nothing did because nothing else has all the same features together in one easy to use program.

Can you load Poser content directly into Max same as Poser? I've never heard that you could(I don't have Max so you know). I think Conniekat8 was talking about content loading in general, correct me if I'm wrong though. I'd like to know.

If Poser Pro is not a high end app("by any stretch of the imagination") then why did they call it Poser Pro? If what's being said is true then it's a low end app being called Pro and that seems like more of a marketing strategy than actually being a Pro device. Finally what is it going to take for Poser to be considered everywhere as a high end app and join the club? I have a few ideas myself, but I'll let somebody more qualified tell us what needs to be done to reach that statues of "Poser High End". If that's an achievable goal at all sales volume and budget being considered before hand. In other words realistically speaking could it be done and make a profit and should it be done or should things stay the way they are? The contents not worth it, but then a high end app should be able to produce high end content too right?

dogor,

You forgot Vue..... ;) And when you get down to it, nothing else has the features -in package- that Poser does. Do any of the Big Boys (tm) have dynamic cloth or strand based hair out of the box? Not unless you forked over more $$$ for the plugins (and keep Blender out of it; I specified the Big Boys...and the last thing Blender can claim is 'ease of use'...). Sure something like Saquatch can do hair far beyond what Poser is capable of.....the bloody pluging costs more than Poser Pro retail, last I checked (which may have changed since then). The 'Pro' appellation has no meaning anymore; Vue 'Pro' was nothing of the sort; it was a stepping stone to the version that proved itself capable of finding a home in a production pipeline, Vue Infinite (and if ILM uses it, it qualifies as 'professional'). Poser 'Pro' isn't near being used in a pipeline for more than previs or poor man's animation...and until they multithread & 64 bit Ubinary the core app, the cloth and hair, improve the collision detection system, expand the animation system to give better access to the key values of motion (they need to just make an animation 'room' and tailor the UI for that and that alone; those who don't animate can ignore the tab), and get some rigging improvements or expansions, it won't be even in the running. It'll never be useful for endstage rendering without major changes in the render engine, but if the animation capabilities get some spiffing up, then as a standalone animation app it could excel. Of course to some it will never be 'pro' unless it becomes a top end modelling app along with everything else....and winds up as expensive as a Max or Modo or XSI or Maya. But if you don't need the polygon tools or NURBs, why pay for them?