4.1.5 Yep, that's me too! I have done a few things with it-- all experiments though and little more, but I have discovered a few things which suggest to me it may be more powerful of a modeler than it at first seems. For one thing it's the first freeware modeler I've seen that does 3D text based on installed fonts, and boolean functions. PC Format had a tutorial on making a teacup, and the Amapi folder has some html tutorials, but all I've seen seems to have huge gaps in it, info-wise. I would REALLY like to see an Amapi forum here. True many of us have multiple 3D programs to use, but it never hurts to bea bale to at least partially master all that we have. And Renderosity would have on more feather in it's cap to contribute to it's loooonnng list of credentials. :)