Hi, Well I tried last night to move the eyes too, but they don't work right if you move them, (naturally :) Is the morph on BBay, or elsewhere? Cheers for the info though :) I think I've got morph manager on a CD somewhere, as my access is a bit curtailed at present, depending on which 'net cafe I'm using, (and hence whether I have access to a floppy or not :) thanks again later jb