I agree too. MS is not going to tell us what they really have planed. They may never sell another copy of Poser again if they did. So we are left withthe wait and see game and possably look for alternatives.

patorak, that is a nice clean way to start, will have to try it when I have time. In Modo we have the Tube tool that lets you draw your basic shape. Then subD and edgeloop.