Yeah i found that and it works now, But I dont remember having to do that with the V4.1 or earlier version is that new with this update? Also there show two options when I go to that one that says something like base morphs and then one for Morphs++.

I did the morphs++ I'm pretty sure I did that right, cause it worked. But out of courisity whats the diffrence between them does the base just like remove all morphs and just make it a basic V4 char with no morphs.

Also I noticed on not all V4 chars I dont have to do that for it sometimes works fine with out having to load those morphs meaning I load V4 out of library then apply the morphs from what ever it shapes her just fine. Just some baisc explaination is all I'm looking for.

Again thanks for you help