Thanks for the resolution suggestion. I try not to bog down my machine too much... which leads to the hint when doing crowds: 1)Use the low-res characters from P3 & P2 2)Save background folks separate from main focus using same lighting, and save a .jpeg 3)import the background characters as "background" and render focal character in original light. This uses only slightly less processing power than a roomfull of characters. This technique was used above so that the fellow with the guitar, the stool, and the bar are all in one shot, and the rest is "background". Since the lighting is the same for both scenes, they blend rather seamlessly and you don't have to waste time in photoshop trying to blend the masked edges. Anyone know where I can find a tutorial about making clear drinking glasses/mugs so I can take that silly white glass from this scene? Tygercub