Quote - Keihan, I am not sure about D|S being entry level, does that exist in 3D? But evidently it is (luckily) still under development, as most software I know (Photoshop CS3 next step CS 4?, Vue6 next step Vue 7, Poser 7 now Poser Pro).

But anyway as an artist, it is the final image that counts, no need bashing at others because they do not use your tool, pencil, brush, canvas, paper, axe, chainsaw .....

 

An  entry level program is a program that offers individuals a starting point into a various field. This particular field being 3D. Yes, some people do use D|S professionally. For example PSP is an entry level raster based program (tho it has some vector capabilities), it doesn't have nearly the power of Photoshop, but like you and D|S, I prefer it's intuitive interface better. I can work faster and it does what I need it to do. I don't need anything more than that as I am sure most DAZ users feel the same about D|S. PSP isn't as full-featured, nor does it have all the bells and whistles of  Photoshop or other top painting apps, but it can do the job if the artist is insightful enough. But none of this is what i am talking about. I am simply pointing out some facts over misinformation and I don't see how that is "bashing" anyone.

As for more info, Poser is not "my" tool. I am a content creator. Poser (and, incidentally, D|S) is my targeted application for the content that I create. I could just as easily target Maya, 3DS Max, Cinema 4D, Lightwave, Softimage, etc etc..

My real tools are Rhinocerous 3D, Hexagon (from DAZ incidentally), Okino Polytrans, UVmapper Pro, CR2builder, Paint Shop Pro, My Fuji 7.0MP Digital Camera (for photorealistic textures) and the list goes on and on. The only time spent inside Poser is putting it all together for the end user and doing promo images (if I do them myself).

I have been in this industry long enough to know a little history about the applications being discussed and I just find it difficult to remain quiet when it seems that there are a lot of biased opinions being strewn about rather than real facts about the subject matter. I saw Bryce, itself, change hands a few times. How many know Bryce's history? It was also owned by Metacreations along with Poser 4. Eventually Corel ended up aquiring Bryce, then DAZ thereafter. I have never even used Bryce, myself. Personally, I don't like the whole arguement of this vs this because it is subjective. I am not a render artist, but I have seen some awesome Renders come out of D|S and I have seen some equally awesome renders come out of Poser. I have seen awesome renders out of Bryce and Vue as well that also blow me away.

With all that said and , once again, I am not bashing any users nor am I bashing any applications, their developers, etc.. etc.. What I am challenging, however, is misinformation. Misinformation such as the statement included in my prior post from a member who I'll not name (as it is irrelevant) .."there are tons of content  available for daz and it's characters that poser plain and simple hasn't produced"... that statement is simply, NOT true.  I see many opinionated statements as such being slung around as if they are fact, not only in this forum but others as well. If the reverse were true, I'd certainly say so, but in this incident it is not.