heyas; thank you, thank you! my adoring fans, what would i do without you? :) (nothing this cool, that's for sure!) coldrake (and others): i had some trouble with my blFrog.obj during the time i was encoding the BFFrog.pcf. i test de-coded it and it seemed to work fine. it is working okay for others.... so im not sure where the problem lies. are you on a mac or a pc? we might need to ask maz what this error means. i will email him.