Hello Flywaver, I agree with Varian about Canyon 2. I think the mountain lake pic looks pretty good for someone only using Vue for a few days now. You're definitely on your way. :) ........ Mike and Sharen, the manual for Vue 3.1 is pretty good. Like most manuals, it doesn't come close to explaining alot of details, but it gives all the basics, and has a number of tutorials for all the features, including several for animations. I don't know yat about the Vue 4 manual, but I guess most people haven't seen it yet either. ;)