Thanks Xerxes.  Well, the only portion I have problems with is vectoring, been doing splines since 1997 when it was Raydream, got the manual for that.  I'll found that everything else is more or less the same (Poser, Vue 5).  If you are able to do something in there, it probably can be done in Carrara.  I'll just print out the vertex modeling portion.  geesh--Jan