hiyas! i'm not sure what that is. (i saw your message waaaaay down the list, coldrake.) i emailed maz about it, maybe he can shed some light on what that means. hey, coldrake... did you put blFrog.obj in that top slot, the 'original seed file' thing? 'cause when i made the pcf, i left that blank. (in fact, i dont know what it is for.) try just using the lower slots. (i dunno, might be worth a try. ::)