True, as I am actually quite lazy, the females are basically the same thing, only 90% smaller, except I left the eyes big. Otherwise it's all in the textures. But hey, that way I can get away with just one set of obj files. Look at it this way, maybe Cring would have trouble telling male and female humans apart, seeing as we're all just various shades of brown, right? Anyhow, I'm thinking about the best way to add eyelashes. I have to test it to see how they would work with the eyelid morphs I made. I'd like to do it as a smart prop, so people could have the option of using them or not. So I'll have to see if that works. Thanks for the suggestions, it nice to know people are having some fun with my little alien/monster thing. --Terri