oh this is where this thread got to! (is there any way you mods can leave a placeholder in the original forum for moved threads?) yep, i know about secure sites, used to set them up myself... set up 6 of them last year. yep, it cost our clients a lot... shrug i don't use paypal and don't know much about it, but i thought it was a convenient and cheap alternative. thanks for the explanations :)

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