Hey, it doesn't hurt to throw out the ideas. Software technology is moving ahead everyday. Joe, you have some very good ideas there and you have every right to speak out. Nothing in this world ever happened without someone's dream becoming reality. And there are software developers reading these threads, including CL and DAZ, so who knows, maybe some of these ideas aren't so impossible as they may sound. My wish would be ray tracing. Even "low end" programs have that. Melanie