cspear, to clarify, the Elite Human Surface Shader that comes with the textures is Daz Studio use only.   It's one of the reasons I did not purchase the bundle.  The other reasons are 1) I sure the heck don't need yet another pose pack and 2) I don't like the textures, especially now after seeing more renders with them.  (Is it just me or does anyone else think the extreme bump mapping...or maybe it's the shader...or both...of the faces make them look as if they've had sand paper taken to them to rough them up?  I know my own face isn't that rough...thankfully.  I want to tell these Elite ladies to go out and buy a good exfoliator or microdermabrasion kit.)  I did, howver, buy the morphs.  At least those are useful to me.