I don't care about anything but content. I like to see an artistically done site that loads fast. I am one of those who almost always choses to "skip intro" for flash screens because they are a bit slow for me on a 56k modem. But, I have designed them for others to be short and sweet. If they were all like that, I would most likely view them but people get too carried away for my taste. I don't care about webrings. To me, they are slow and cumbersome to view and make pages load slower...put them somewhere in the links page if you must. I don't care about counters. You can find out how many hits you get without having that stupid thing on your site. if your stuff is good, people will come back to visit periodically. if new stuff is never added, people will forget to visit. I do like to get updates from my fav sites if there is new content so if there is an opportunity to receive update notices (like Daz does) I will opt for those if it's a site that has nice stuff. I do not care if you are on the top 25 or not. If I see you in the gallery, free stuff or Marketplace and you have a link to your page, I will have a look most likely. I sometimes look to see if there is someone new on the top 25 but it doesn't influence me overall because I think all it means is that you have referred more people than anyone below the top 25, I am not influenced by how many people you have referred to Renderosity. hope that helps you some.