Jesus. "comparably priced 3D packages have features like... yadda yadda" Whatever. Name one other software package that has such a comprehensive, high quality fully-poseable model library, free for commercial use. You can't, because they dont exist. So please, before you start comparing Poser to other low-end 3D programs make sure you are comparing apples to apples and oranges to oranges. Poser is a product designed to do one thing -- animate and render poseable models. Its never been intended to be used as a modelling program. As for Havok, for christs sake it doesnt even ship with 3DSMax, which costs 20 times what Poser costs. Its available as a plugin for Max that currently costs more than Poser 4 in itself. Lets quit the daydreaming for a moment and realise that Poser is a $200 program and youre not going to get even close to the functionality of Max or Maya. But you do get a great model library and it does what it was intended for well. Put to rest any notions that youre going to model, animate and render the sequel to the Final Fantasy movie with Poser 5, because its just not going to happen.