I'm looking to buy Modo, for Modeling, Messiah for Animating figures, and Either Cinama 4D or Lightwave for the Final Render. Both of them will let me Import Vue Extreams Scenes.

I know that Maya has a great weight setup which lets you gigles when you move the body.  I'm curious does Cinama 4D or Lightwave have a simular effect. I would get Maya, and had though hard about it. But It's learning curve is worrysome with all I want to accomplish.

One thing I had in mind was Import V4 and Redue Her, along with M3. Rework them and make masters of them to branch other models off of, simular to what you can do with V4 and M3 know. I want them to be more effecent on resourse with a lower poly count.  I want more control over Body movements, and I love the way the cloth works in Messiah.

But after looking at some of the models that are comming out of this Thread, I might just look here for some good models. I don't want to get into All the features that these programs can do except what I want from each one, and use the one that does what it does best. This is why I chose these Three Programs for my needs.

I have Poser 7 now and like all the nice Charatures and their Textures you can get. From what I think I understand Those textures don't import into Cinama or Lightwave too well??? I may have misunderstood. I make full lenght movies and I'm tired of the limatations within Poser, and I have issues with DAZ studio. They were great for a good number of years, but now I want more.

If I get Lightwave I will get the lighter Version or Cinamas Core version. I should have everything I will need or I can buy a module if needed. There are plenty of users here that use most of the Programs I mentioned. So Feedback is very welcome, even if you disagree, and why you disagree. I know I could probably get Maya and do everything I want. But from people I've talked to You can model 5 times faster in Modo as you can in Maya. That is very important to me. Messiah is one of the Best Animating Programs I've seen. What I use to render the final Production is up for grabs. I would like the Weighting effect if Possible, and a partical Effects program.