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Liberals ARE the threat. Liberals are the ones pushing for centralized government control and expanded government power. They always have been.
Liberals are the driving force behind the welfare state, and total dependence of the population on government support, and government regulated education, energy, manufacturing, transportation, etc.
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Whee hoo, I like a good fight but this is getting tiresome.
This is a 3d forum.

Conservatives believe that a pure capitalist society will make things better but it won't. There are things that are just not cost effective for a company to do. Also relying on the basic goodness of companies is naive and dangerous. Very few companies will choose safety/public well being over profits. Heaven forbid that somebody has to tell profit driven companies "No, you can't do this because its out of bounds". Be glad that we have somebody testing drugs to make sure they work or maybe you want to go back to the 1800s and snake oil times?

Its hard to get credit now because banks got messed by derivatives and they are trying to recoup their losses. Oh yeah, derivatives were not regulated.

Let you in on a secret, the Govt, Liberal or Conservative, has control of our educational system. Try to teach condoms and safe sex in schools and see how much federal funding your school will receive. Can't teach abstinence and safe sex because someone high up in the govt has decided that teenagers are not smart enough to decide. I bet you that a conservative made that decision.

Not much good will come of letting businesses doing what they wish with no regard to public safety/well being. Now how much regulation is up to debate. But a few regulations is light years away from Centralization of private assets.

I see nothing wrong with helping out people who are down on their luck, isn't that a good thing to do? Help them out and get them on their feet and productive. Everyone can get a bad run of luck and could use some help once in a while. Thats not a welfare state.

Now Welfare is probably a mess why? Because you got politicians who have to prove that they are worth the votes so they tack on stuff, no matter if it does not really help, it just shows that they are busy.

Blind faith in ideologies like Conservatism/Liberalism is going to ruin this country. These ideaologies reduce the sources of solutions, its like having half  or third of a playbook instead of a whole one. Our problems do not have that weakness.

People are tired of "Business as Usual", thats why Obama is so popular. Even McCain talking about using the free market for health care is old school and wrong. Health care has been free market for years and health care is still too expensive. Health care companies make money by signing up more people and paying out less. So if you have a pre existing condition, well too bad.

I figure with all this yelling it will turn out like what they say in the jibjab cartoon but I hope we get something better.
http://sendables.jibjab.com/sendables/1191/time_for_some_campaignin#

Somebody else on this thread has said people need to get away from the partisian stuff and start dealing with the problems facing this nation as Americans. Anything else is not going to work.