Wow, thanks for all the replies. I think you are all right about the neck. The motion of his head is very restricted by it. If he bends his head more than a few degrees, his chin goes into his chest. I did a little experiment and scaled his torso a bit longer, I think its an improvement. To fix him right, though I'm going to have to go back to the uncut mesh, adjust, then cut him up again. Ah well, if it's worth doing right it's worth doing over and over and over..