Thanks bruno, I am using vue xstrem I will try playing around with the atmophere. I was also wanting to change the material on the icebergs I did try the translucency option however it takes an ernoumous amount of computing power and often caused a computer hang up can I do more to make the iceberg material look more icy and real.

It seems I always have problems with preceptions or camera distances due to which the propotions end up feeling unrealistic can you help me out there in any way....

thanks again for the response.