I have VV. I haven't really used her, for a render. I love vicki2. The vicki2p4 model lets one use all of the P4 clothing. Also, I think vicki is sort of unattractive, and the other one can be made to look like the p4 woman, with a ton of morphs. I think, I love Kane, for Michael. I have only had him a couple of days. I haven't played with him, before tonight. He does look like a must have.