ghelmer   sorry but I am finding Poser's lighting superior to Carrara for raytraced soft shadows, AO and skin shaders. I am totally converted back to PoserPro from Carrara.

[I fully admit that I am currently also repelled from Carrara by the lack of hair and cloth in C. But having said that, I honestly will put Poser up against any Carrara soft shadow raytrace scene.]

I spent two days in the "sun" room of Carrara. It is cool. But that whole realistic sky GI thing is a different category, which Poser does not have. So tip of the hat to Carrara there; however, the Carrara GI is NOT anywhere in the same league with Cinema, Max, Modo etc.

I can't post a render right now (at work at lunchtime) of the excellent Poser raytrace soft shadows + skin but would be glad to do so later tonight if you care.

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