Quote - > Quote - ...personal defamation of me included. B.t.w., the ongoing total silence and absolute lack of Vue7 demo renders suggest to anybody capabable of indipendent (i.e. non-fanboy) thinking that something is severely wrong with this situation.

It's not necessary to call anyone names. Most of us here at Rendo Vue community have been around for some time, and have figured out how to help each other and provide support for Vue. Calling members 'fanboys', certainly does not promote a civil and community spirit.

I'm curious, what is the logic behind your conclusion "something is severely wrong with this situation?"

About calling names, my nickname has been posted on the Curnucopia thread you mentioned with derogatory comments associated, so I AM THE FIRST ONE who has been INSULTED and I am just trying to DEFEND myself.

I understand that in a very competitive environment one might be secretive w.r.t. what he is developing but, as soon as one has shown the product in a world class event like SIGGRAPH there is no logical (or at least understandable) reason not to give further information either on the firm website or with a controlled release of information from alpha/beta testers.

Even in the case of Terragen2 (one of the worst delayed programs I know of) there have been more information (for a couple of years, on Luc Bianco website you could see astonishing renders which hinted at what Terragen 2 could do).

I remember Vue6 rollout: immediately after SIGGRAPH 06 a comprehesive (and new...) video from Belino.net was available and, if I remember well, there were detailed information on E-On website.

Now I am not requesting the spectacular openess of L3DT (http://www.bundysoft.com/L3DT/) developer who releases frequent public betas and has a PUBLIC (and frequently updated) todo list in the program wiki, or the frequent blogging from the World Machine developer, I think that telling everybody who didn't go to SIGGRAPH some like "hey, bunch of suckers who put out of the wallet the credit card in the past, we are doing this and this and this, here are a few render and a couple of videos, drool upon them and shut up because we haven't the slightest idea of release date" wouldn't be so earth-shaking... it's just customer relations, nothing special.

Silence make you think: why aren't they telling anything? what's the problem? I have enough grey hair to know that even when you assume the worst you are always too optimistic so the math is simple.

... no, I am not writing "bye".

P.S.: Vue 7 has been photographed and there are eye witnesses; the same can be said for UFO, little grey men, Yeti's, the Lockness monster, ghosts, etc. etc. I cite the words that  skeptic.com has for the recent Bigfoot news: "Show Me the Body".

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