Thanks that kinda works I think there is something wrong with the meshes I created because upon exiting the setup room I have done everything as the manual says they seem to break up still and I think thats becasue of something with the grouping I move one figure and the mesh beacks up that may be due to so many smaller parts in the original mesh when I imported what I think I am going to send one of my meshes to a friend and see if he can convert it because its really starting to get on my last good nerve. BTW thanks for responding so quickly and for the advice. My problem is when I start working on a problem I get tunnel vision and forget about the other things I had earlier learned and keep looking in the same place I seem to think where the answer is. Thanks again.

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