RJ, I use Bryce a lot too, but if I am making texture maps for a particular item (with thoughts of in the future offering them in Funstuff or whatever), then I have to think of the Poser folks, so I'm trying to learn the best way to approach it in Poser for now. You didn't confuse the issue-only I can do that LOL. Diane B (sorry Bloodsong-I've used picnic for 6 years or so on the net, but have a tendency in comfortable surroundings to use my real name).