Using the True Ambience along with HDRI - I have to bring the Value of the Material Color WAY down. Or, at least I like how doing that looks compared to just reducing the light of HDRI WAY down. Either way can give you a slightly different look to the lighting of the scene.

But, True Ambience + HDRI....whew, its gonna be a long-ish render, even with quad cores.  ;o)

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