> Quote - never said he was. just commenting that if I had seen him without being told it was M4, I would have thought it was a morph of apollo.

*Apollo is a great figure, but really, don't you people ever look at a wireframe?  If anybody can get Apollo's thighs to show muscle definition like in that top pic I'd be impressed to see it.  The topology of the model simply does not support that.  The two models have practically nothing in common.

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