Quote - And, no -- it hasn't been the right that's "been running the show for decades now".  It's been the philosophies and the directives of the left, with occasional tepid forays into conservative thinking timidly tried here and there.  The Clintons weren't exactly a couple of right-wing fanatics.

Hmm. Let's see. Reagan came into power in 1980, started right away implementing deregulation, cutting funding for various social programs, implemented tax cuts and massive increases in military spending ... oh, so I guess it was Bush the elder that implemented all those philosophies and directives of the left ... er, no, not exactly.

So along came Clinton and ... er, I wonder why the Republicans kept complaining about Clinton stealing their ideas ...

And, of course Bush the Lessor, yeah, he did lots of that left-wing economic ... er, yeah.

Okay. You win.

Quote - But thinking that you can talk Ahmadinejad into turning over a new leaf & becoming a peace-lover by merely talking to him is not only stupid: it's downright dangerous.

If we are going to talk about reality, no one (other than right-wing spinners) has ever suggested such a thing, or even anything close.

So I agree. It is stupid. You win again.