heya; hmmm... i thought tygerlander tried it with the animals cd frog AND the p4 frog. that would bite if it only works with the p4 frog, because i wanted the p3&animal cd people to be able to use it, too. but anyhow, i was going to suggest, as a last ditch effort, you can boot up in safe mode and try it. :/ maz: you silly! if it is a weenies error preventing the decoding of this file, then a plain dos version would work, right? i mean, no drivers and crap messing things up. just obj text file to obj text file. (well, the pcf file isn't plain text, but...) FINALLY: if you just CANT decode the fool frog.... you can at least change the library cr2's to point to the original frog. you will get the species, morphs and tongue, but the texture maps wont work. neither will the translucent ribbet trick, even if you make your own skins, because the original frog has its back and belly layered over each other, and you'd end up with a transparent throat and head.